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« on: August 20, 2008, 07:01:12 pm »

Post your complaints in here
but not later than 2 hours after the last driver has crossed the finish line.

Tell us what happened, where, what lap, which driver/ drivers, and so on.

Complaints:
- none -


Penalties:
[Fluid] M.Biaggi: +15 sec.
( crossing the pitline when entering the pits end of lap 4 )

[MCR] JayBee: +15 sec.
( crossing the pitline when leaving the pits start of lap 6 )

[PM] Jwardy: +15 sec.
( crossing the pitline when entering the pits end of lap 11 )

[PM] Luke: +15 sec.
( crossing the pitline when entering the pits end of lap 11 )

acr| allanD44: +30 sec
( crossing the pitline when entering the pits end of lap 11 )
( crossing the pitline when leaving the pits start of lap 12 )

CR|Danowat: +15 sec.
( crossing the pitline when entering the pits end of lap 17 )

NightFly''': +15 sec.
( crossing the pitline when leaving the pits start of lap 18 )

FLP/r Jouman: +15 sec.
( crossing the pitline when entering the pits end of lap 20 )

GreyBull [CHA]: +15 sec.
( crossing the pitline when entering the pits end of lap 20 )

ATC Dadge: +15 sec.
( crossing the pitline when entering the pits end of lap 24 )

T7R|Pingo:  +15 sec.
( crossing the pitline when entering the pits end of lap 25 )



Warning:

The following drivers get a warning for the next race:

Danowat:
For unnecessary contact with [PM] Jwardy in lap 3
which led to the crash between [PM] Jwardy and  [Fluid] M.Biaggi
You should have known that you can't go 3 cars wide through that turn

acr|Freeliner:
DNF (Did not Finish)
For crossing the pitline when entering the pits end of lap 5

[R-R] Ben-GB
DNS (Did not Start)
For chatting and for chatting 3 times again when he was told to be quiet

[SR]Shaun:
DNF
For chatting when he entered the server again after his disconnection
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« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2008, 01:55:20 am »

Now you see why the results took awhile this time.  Wink
We have so few rules but so many didn't followed them.
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« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2008, 06:42:26 am »

I can't believe I get a warning for that Bernd.

Watch the replay, watch it from my POV, I am on the inside, infact, I DO yeild, I let off the throttle, AND brake, Jwardy turns across my path which causes the crash.
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« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2008, 09:30:15 am »

i thought the pit lane rule was for the exit only. my bad Sad
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« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2008, 12:40:46 pm »

I can't believe I get a warning for that Bernd.

Watch the replay, watch it from my POV, I am on the inside, infact, I DO yeild, I let off the throttle, AND brake, Jwardy turns across my path which causes the crash.

I can't believe you touched him. Wink
It was such a predictable situation.

It's almost impossible to go together with 2 cars at full speed through that turn but you were 3 cars.
On the straight there were 2 cars in front of you. Then both are on your left side.

Then you also "corrected" your line a bit more to the left (race time 50.35)
But both of them are still there. They can't vanish into thin air.

I saw that you touched your brakes 2 times but  if you would have given them more room
or moved a bit more to the right or lifted a bit more or earlier, nothing would have happend.

I think it wasn't your corner or that you was really in the position to pass them both.
[Fluid] M.Biaggi was in front and moved to the right to take the turn
then [PM] Jwardy had to give him room and moved to the right
all that was predictable

I the end I agree that it was unlucky but no one got a penalty.
The warning just means be a bit more cautious next time
when 2 drivers are next to (in front of) you.
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« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2008, 01:03:17 pm »

I didn't touch him, he turned into me, I was already off the accelerator and braking when he did touch me, I think all 3 drivers are equally to blame, I just can't see how I can be held accountable for the incident, when the other 2 drivers don't even get warned....
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« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2008, 02:06:41 pm »

I didn't touch him, he turned into me, I was already off the accelerator and braking when he did touch me, I think all 3 drivers are equally to blame, I just can't see how I can be held accountable for the incident, when the other 2 drivers don't even get warned....
Look at 0:50.22 in the replay there you started to turn to the left to correct your line
as you maybe noticed you will never make that turn with your actual line.
But there were 2 people in front of you to the left that sooner or later have to turn in.

It was [Fluid] M.Biaggi's corner so he turned in (should I blame him for that?)
[PM] Jwardy was fair and gave him room and also turned in to avoid a crash/touch.
Like he should do as it wasn't really his corner (should I blame him for that?)

Only you drove a line where it was obvious that you will sooner or later touch
if you don't move more to the right or back off or slow down more.
The other two drivers had to turn in at some point to make that corner.

Imo you should have to back off there or just brake more.
But I am open to conviction.
If others have an opinion about it, just post it.

I know pictures are not that good to judge about something like that but maybe it can help.
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« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2008, 02:16:49 pm »

I guess it's the context of the corner, I felt I had a better speed into the straight, and held my line, I am not sure what factors make it Biaggi's corner, more than anyones else though.

It's unfortunate that I came out of the corner better, I feel that if I hadn't have done, the view of the incident may have been different.

I have no bad feeling about it, it's one of those things.
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