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« on: June 29, 2007, 05:30:18 pm »

Hay All,

Just wondering, if any of you have played or do play LFS over a Wireless connection.  The reason I ask, is where my is going to be situated, it "really" has to go wireless.  The BT Socket is right next to the front door, and the BT Extension goes upstairs the the girls room.

As it is still the "early" days, don't really want to go drilling holes in walls just yet.

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« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2007, 05:48:39 pm »

I have a wireless router but haven't played with wireless yet because I always try to use cable.
The most people (I know) that often have problems with loosing server connections in LFS have wireless.
I'm not sure if this is just coincidence.

Imo there is nothing better then a cable connection
but if you can't do it in another way then you have to use wireless.

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« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2007, 05:50:55 pm »

I run wireless with no probs.  Can't really cable it where mine is either.

I used to have no end of problems with routers (Netgear and Linksys), but my current cheapo ISP provided SpeedTouch router is faultless!

LFS seems to keep the wireless connection alive on the bad routers though, it's when I was just browsing the web that they kept dropping.
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« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2007, 06:47:48 pm »

Used to use wireless with LFS, when I lived in shared accomodation, it was fine, untill the resident Pole decided to "phone home" (in an E.T. voice) to Poland using Skype.............
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« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2007, 06:59:17 pm »

Used to use wireless with LFS, when I lived in shared accomodation, it was fine, untill the resident Pole decided to "phone home" (in an E.T. voice) to Poland using Skype.............
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« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2007, 12:29:29 am »

Hey Shaun,
I really think in this case it will depend on how far the router is going to be from the computer, and if there is interference along the way (such as walls, microwaves, TV's, Phones, etc...)

I know from experience that some wireless phones run off the same frequency as routers (2.4ghz), so that could always cause issues Smiley

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« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2007, 08:28:13 am »

Also depends on, whether there are other wireless LANs around you. So possibly changing you channel (1-15) could also improve your ping, because packet collisions with other wLANs, are killing your ping.  read2

But nothing is better than a cable, maybe except if you are sitting on the mars, because then your pings are really bad. Only solution for that could be QLAN (Quantum LAN).  Wink
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« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2007, 11:56:19 am »

Yeah i am running wireless aswell because running a cable is out the question unless it is all over the floor and up the stairs.  Only do that for leagues that cant afford any connection problems.

But otherwise the Linksys router works perfect. It is upstairs on the other side of the house and we are both in pretty much closed rooms.
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« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2007, 09:52:49 pm »

I have done some very basic  testing with wireless and lfs and with my laptop no more than 8m away from the NETGEAR DG834GT router I get a good to excellent signal (@54Mbps)and can play LFS for over 1 hour without any probs Smiley I will try some interfeerance testing tommorow with cordless phone electrical appliances flouresent lighting ect, and let you know how I get on.

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« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2007, 11:25:41 pm »

Also, just a quick reminder, the wireless signal travels down, so place your router on a high spot in your house for optimal performance  icon_thumleft

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« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2007, 12:09:56 am »

the wireless signal travels down, so place your router on a high spot in your house for optimal performance



I have to agree that the signal can be better with a higher or larger ( within wavelenth or fraction/multiple of) antenna but I had a little chuckle at the travels down comment hehe, all transmitions  emmited from antennas radiate out in all directions unless a directional antenna is used Smiley the reason higher is sometimes better is because there is less to cause interferance, unless of course you are directly under it Smiley

also worth a mention, telecom systems have changed alot in the past 20 years but internal domestic  telephone wiring has not, and alot of people dont realise the internal phone cables in a house (and extension sockets) are often the cause of degradation and interferance on your line.
I would almost always advise to connect your router to the incoming phone companys master socket whereever possable, on a maxDSL service where connection speed is dynamic it should achieve a faster conn than the extensions on the secondary side.

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« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2007, 12:52:15 am »

also worth a mention, telecom systems have changed alot in the past 20 years but internal domestic  telephone wiring has not, and alot of people dont realise the internal phone cables in a house (and extension sockets) are often the cause of degradation and interferance on your line.
I would almost always advise to connect your router to the incoming phone companys master socket whereever possable, on a maxDSL service where connection speed is dynamic it should achieve a faster conn than the extensions on the secondary side.

SD.

Totally Agreed with you on that Dave, I see this problem very, very often where I work (clients blaming us for their poor wiring lol) icon_thumleft

I thought the wireless signal emited acted like an umbrella, where it would eventually head down? I guess I am mistaken  icon_silent

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« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2007, 01:06:59 am »

The signal is two-way though, so you'd have to make sure that your router is higher than your wireless card, but also that your router is lower than your wireless card  confused2  mrgreen
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« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2007, 09:46:39 pm »

Hay All,

Thx for your replies.  All networked up now ( 3 pc's and a laptop ) and it "seems" to be ok, browsing that is.  I get good signal strength ( and considering its up against a internal wall ) and the router is upstairs. 

I spoke to my boss ( cable expert and BT Engineer ) and he is going to come around, and put in a new BT Ext socket for me, so the kids use wireless and I move the router so I am hardwired.

Will test LFS later on, but thanks for your replies.

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« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2007, 11:05:05 pm »

Maybe someone can explain my wireless idiosyncrasy
I'm via cable to router but my gf's PC is connected wirelessly. I have to put the encryption at WEP as I get no connection with WPA and WPA2, it suggests too much noise regardless of channel used  evil
It's not too worrying since I have MAC address filtering, but still astounds me. Router and dongle both made my USRobotics, even supplied together and I've tried changing a multitude of other settings also.
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